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Monday morning!  OK, sadly I'm not going to be able to post images this week as although I'd hoped to be in a more organised state...I'm not.  I am going to be away on business all week and then moving house next weekend and it's all a bit...erm...mad!

The photo challenge is going ahead though, read about the background suggestion and see the last blog entry for all the information.

A few people have asked me to explain further how to submit an image.  I've posted an example below  (it's the first comment) to show you how.  No need to 'tag' your images with anything, just give me the link and I'll follow it.

Take care and I hope to be back online asap!!

Angle

Monday morning!  OK, sadly I'm not going to be able to post images this week as although I'd hoped to be in a more organised state...I'm not.  I am going to be away on business all week and then moving house next weekend and it's all a bit...erm...mad!

The photo challenge is going ahead though, read about the background suggestion and see the last blog entry for all the information.

A few people have asked me to explain further how to submit an image.  I've posted an example below  (it's the first comment) to show you how.  No need to 'tag' your images with anything, just give me the link and I'll follow it.

Take care and I hope to be back online asap!!

comments (15)

  • Challenge Entry
  • 26 Mar 2007, 00:06
Please consider this image http://beakerst.shutterchance.com/blog.php
for the challenge!! Hope I win!!
BeakerSt: You're in with a good chance as you're the only entrant so far!! Good luck!
  • mal
  • 26 Mar 2007, 01:09
even by your standards of simplicity and composition this has something extra! lovely shot mal
composition is awesome here
Hey Dude.
1. Organise your time - I am hopeless at this, so u get no grief from me.
2. Good luck with the house-move, one of my all-time pet hates.
3. http://drewble.shutterchance.com/photoblog/68013.htm - My entry for the little comp.
4. Not sure about the crop on this one from you...
BeakerSt: Psychodudu / Drewble - "HerFirstBike" posted 26 March and submitted against a theme entry of 'First' at beakerst.co.uk

Relevance and Creativity
The competition will define the criteria for entries so how close to the definition is the shot. For example a theme of 'dog' would really need to have a dog as the focal point or main feature.

OK, without the title it wouldn't be clear that the shot was submitted against a theme of 'First' but it doesn't take a rocket science to make the link if you know what it has been submitted for. By that I mean if I didn't know the theme I probably wouldn't be able to guess it but as I do know the theme I could guess along the lines of first bike or first child. Now we've established that I do like the 'my first bike' subject and it's is a subject most people will relate to and is a nice angle on the theme. Therefore it's not brilliant in this category but neither is it way off the mark so it gets 5


Overall impact
You can take a perfectly framed picture, appropriately composed and executed but it can still be dullÂ…does it have any wow factor?
I think the shot has some really nice elements although it stops short of making me go 'wow'. There are strong shadows which I always find appealing, they are on the verge of dominating but they give a very nice backdrop to the scene and you've still kept the focus on the girl especially as her face is nicely illuminated. The texture of the floor being cobbled adds interest to the frame also. Whilst she doesn't look elated with the bike the overall feeling is one of happiness with the fun little hat and motif so you get an impression of her being pleased even if it's not immediately obvious by a massive grin. The shadows and cobbles mean it gets a 6


Composition
Is it appropriately composed, not necessarily rule of thirds or symmetrically presented but are the focal parts in the right place? Is it natural on the eye?

The bike and rider are quite low and left in the frame so there's not much room to really present the subject. The shadows are strong and complimentary so it would have been nice to have some if not all of the bike's shadow in the shot. Your chosen subject after all is meant to be the bike so I think this is a missed opportunity. The other effect of the subject being low and left is that you've created a bit of a black hole in the top right area which draws the eyes away being relatively dark and uninteresting. I think the best way to visualise what I am getting at is if you were to have stepped back a few paces and then over the left a couple. The shadow of the bike would then lead you nicely onto the bike and rider and the main dark shadow running through the background would lead more diagonally rather through the shot and into the distance. At the moment the background on the right is a taking a little too much of the attention so overall a 5

Quality of image
For example is it free from camera shake, noise and straight e.g. a seascape horizon that isn't flat or building that rises at an unintentional angle.

It's a good clean crisp shot so easy scores here, 8


Total: 24/40

0-10 - ErmÂ…not sure how to break this to you!
10-20 - Could do with a bit of work to make it less of a snap and more of a piece of work to be proud of.
20-30 - Getting there and certainly above average
30-35 - Like it, like it a lot
35-40 - Wow and I'm probably being harsh with the criticism

Thanks for entering and I hope you found it useful!! Let me know if not wink
  • SheepLover
  • Pembrokeshire, S.W. Wales
  • 26 Mar 2007, 12:09
Seriously cool composition & simple feel on this one. What a great eye you have...
Great composition.
Challenge Entry 31 March 2007, Please consider this image http://jasdg.shutterchance.com/blog.php for the challenge!!
I really not if I am following your instructions correctly. My image for the consideration is in quote for the 31/03/2007! Best regards, Simon [Google translation]

As far as you photography, which I like more is the golden reflection that the sun leaves when caressing paving stones!
BeakerSt: Jose-Angel / jasdg - "Two First" posted 31 March and submitted against a theme entry of 'First' at beakerst.co.uk

Relevance and Creativity
The competition will define the criteria for entries so how close to the definition is the shot. For example a theme of 'dog' would really need to have a dog as the focal point or main feature.

OK, not sure what to say here and maybe it's a translation thing. As I said to Psychodudo / Drewble (see above) without the title it wouldn't be clear that the shot was submitted against a theme of 'First'. I agree that there are two number '1's but neither is the focus as they are part of larger numbers. This would work for a theme of 'numbers' but not quite for 'First' I'm afraid. Having said that I do like it from a creative point of view so I will give it a balanced mark, low for relevance but higher for creativity so it gets 5.

Overall impact
You can take a perfectly framed picture, appropriately composed and executed but it can still be dullÂ…does it have any wow factor?
There is a nice balance between an old carved date and the aged but slightly newer label '19' which I like and the detail and interest in the age of the wall is also appealing. Sadly apart from that there isn't that much in the image to look at so interest passes relatively quickly. I like what you've tried to do but you could have improved the textures and tones to make it more interesting. Depending on the software, I use Photoshop, dodging and burning and can help. 5

Composition
Is it appropriately composed, not necessarily rule of thirds or symmetrically presented but are the focal parts in the right place? Is it natural on the eye?

Now I have to admit that I would struggle to know how to frame this. One thing that I note is that you've cropped the bottom edge of the carving around '1793' which looks odd to me. I understand that the number is what you are wanting me to look at but the carving around the number is just as important as it frames the number. The crop is a little close for me and a little bit of more space and especially around the carving would have presented the subject better in my opinion, it's all a bit close. I also think that a portrait crop rather than landscape may have suited the image better with a little more room beneath the two numbers and equal distance either side giving it a more natural balance on the eye. At the moment there is a bit of uninteresting space on the left which makes the image look out of balance. 5 again.

Quality of image
For example is it free from camera shake, noise and straight e.g. a seascape horizon that isn't flat or building that rises at an unintentional angle.

There is a strange stripe in the lower left of the frame of the shot that looks to be processing artefact rather than a feature of the wall. You appear to have created a false border around the edge, I don't know if this is intentional but it confuses the viewer, sorry. 6

Total: 21/40

0-10 - ErmÂ…not sure how to break this to you!
10-20 - Could do with a bit of work to make it less of a snap and more of a piece of work to be proud of.
20-30 - Getting there and certainly above average
30-35 - Like it, like it a lot
35-40 - Wow and I'm probably being harsh with the criticism

Apologies if the language is not easily translated. If anything is unclear then please let me know.

Best regards and thanks for entering smile
Simon
great perspective..
  • Steve
  • 30 Mar 2007, 10:03
Hope your house move goes ok Simon. Here's my effort for the challenge: http://steve.shutterchance.com/photoblog/69109.htm . Great light on the cobbles btw.
BeakerSt: Steve - "Determination" posted 31 March and submitted against a theme entry of 'First' at beakerst.co.uk

Relevance and Creativity
The competition will define the criteria for entries so how close to the definition is the shot. For example a theme of 'dog' would really need to have a dog as the focal point or main feature.

I love this, it's maybe not a ‘eureka’ moment in creativity but it is perfect for the theme. There is no doubt that the subject is winning the race and nearing the finish line. Spot on so I’ll give it a 9

Overall impact
You can take a perfectly framed picture, appropriately composed and executed but it can still be dullÂ…does it have any wow factor?

There’s a ‘Chariots of Fire’ feeling to the shot. At first I thought it was processed to appear aged but then I noticed the moustache of the guy on the right and realised it was a period shot, very 70’s. The tones, colours and overall feel match the simple white running outfits and the basic grass running lanes so it’s a winner imho. I’ll give it an 8 as it’s just missing a little drama that you could only get in a close finish or the winner actually breaking the tape in the shot. (I’m certainly not going to gush over a submission to the first theme challenge…where would I have to go in future wink )

Composition
Is it appropriately composed, not necessarily rule of thirds or symmetrically presented but are the focal parts in the right place? Is it natural on the eye?

Now I am going to be a little pernickety here and mention a couple of things. What I am also going to do is judge it on the basis of the image presented and not itÂ’s age, ability of the equipment or anything elseÂ…IÂ’m trying to judge all images in the same way even though it could be said that achieving good results is potentially easier today with advances in technology. Anyhow the comments are more to do with composition so technology is not an issue. There is a slight imbalance with the position of the horizon in that a little more foreground would be easier on the eyeÂ…just a little too much sky for me (I told you I was going to be picky). The action is in the foreground near the tape and the slight bias towards the sky is drawing my attention away from the runner. IÂ’ve also noticed an almost disembodied head holding the tape on the rightÂ…now IÂ’ve noticed it I canÂ’t stop seeing itÂ…just a bit of a shame thatÂ’s itÂ’s become a distraction. Still going to score it 8

Quality of image
For example is it free from camera shake, noise and straight e.g. a seascape horizon that isn't flat or building that rises at an unintentional angle.

Perfect for the genre with only a slight hazing in the distance. 8

Total: 33 /40

0-10 - ErmÂ…not sure how to break this to you!
10-20 - Could do with a bit of work to make it less of a snap and more of a piece of work to be proud of.
20-30 - Getting there and certainly above average
30-35 - Like it, like it a lot
35-40 - Wow and I'm probably being harsh with the criticism

I'd be very pleased with such a shot smile
  • mal
  • 31 Mar 2007, 14:05
high Simon

My entry for the competition is going to be my main image for the 1st of April, so If you are reading this today you'll have to wait till tomorrow - I hope that you have a great laugh as well!!

All the best
mal
BeakerSt: Revenge is a dish best served cold...that'll teach you to expose such a shot.

Mal - "My first missing tooth" posted 1 April and submitted against a theme entry of 'First' at beakerst.co.uk

Relevance and Creativity
The competition will define the criteria for entries so how close to the definition is the shot. For example a theme of 'dog' would really need to have a dog as the focal point or main feature.

Very amusing if slightly disturbing. Whilst itÂ’s perhaps not obvious upon further study I did understand what you were getting at. IÂ’m personally surprised that youÂ’ve developed into such a sociable personÂ…childhood must have been tough with that angelic smile. Just a 4 as whilst itÂ’s relevant it took a bit of searching and isnÂ’t really the main purpose of the shot.

Overall impact
You can take a perfectly framed picture, appropriately composed and executed but it can still be dullÂ…does it have any wow factor?

Hmmm what can I sayÂ…must mean a lot to your mother and is probably quite important for your therapist. 3 Â…you may regret submitting this, even in jest, as clearly IÂ’m going to take the judging responsibility very very seriously. wink

Composition
Is it appropriately composed, not necessarily rule of thirds or symmetrically presented but are the focal parts in the right place? Is it natural on the eye?

That lamp stuck in your shoulder, the luminous chopsticks, the ufo in the top rightÂ…stop me now lol I suppose you are the focus and you are in the middle so 2

Quality of image
For example is it free from camera shake, noise and straight e.g. a seascape horizon that isn't flat or building that rises at an unintentional angle.

I think IÂ’ll stop being nasty and IÂ’ve nothing more humorous to sayÂ…oh I haveÂ…is that a crease across the image where itÂ’s been folded up to protect innocent eyes from the shock? 3

Total: 12 /40 Â…oh you so nearly won! If only youÂ’d been the only entry. Better luck next time but somehow I donÂ’t think you need much luck.

0-10 - ErmÂ…not sure how to break this to you!
10-20 - Could do with a bit of work to make it less of a snap and more of a piece of work to be proud of.
20-30 - Getting there and certainly above average
30-35 - Like it, like it a lot
35-40 - Wow and I'm probably being harsh with the criticism

I look forward to seeing a serious entry on a future challenge smile
  • Petra
  • 31 Mar 2007, 18:05
Hello Simon,
phew....in the last couple of hours of this month, i have to put on my photo for your contest!
Hope your trip was okay and that you are ready with the house-moving, hope it will be a happy place for you!
my photo is on the date april 1 and it is NO joke....well maybe you will think it is,but it's not one on purpose...smile
Have a good weekend and thanks for all the trouble you get for organizing this for all of us on shutter!
Petra
BeakerSt: Petra - "Family" posted 1 April and submitted against a theme entry of 'First' at beakerst.co.uk

Relevance and Creativity
The competition will define the criteria for entries so how close to the definition is the shot. For example a theme of 'dog' would really need to have a dog as the focal point or main feature.

I have to be honest and say that the relevance doesnÂ’t come across. I do appreciate that the deadline may have been tight for this particular challenge but some of the entries require dialogue to make me understand where the relevance is. With that in mind I donÂ’t feel I can really award many marks for this as itÂ’s just too subtle a connection. 2 (sorry)

Overall impact
You can take a perfectly framed picture, appropriately composed and executed but it can still be dullÂ…does it have any wow factor?

ItÂ’s definitely got a warm fuzzy feel to it. There is tenderness in her eyes and there is adoration from her son in the way they are embraced. Therefore the image works in getting the sense of security and love as well as a sense of fun across to the viewer. IÂ’ll score it 7 as photos of people really need to be so so so good to appeal those that donÂ’t know them.

Composition
Is it appropriately composed, not necessarily rule of thirds or symmetrically presented but are the focal parts in the right place? Is it natural on the eye?

I do have a couple of comments to make that I feel impact the composition. The boy, Siem, is very harshly cropped into the bottom right considering the space that is given to the mother. This is at odds with the overall purpose of the image as it is meant to convey the relationship and the two of them together. I also think that youÂ’ve included too much hair on the mother especially as there are some quite fancy sunglasses perched amongst it. The focus in meant to be her face (especially her eyes and smile) and his cheeky green and the embrace between them. The sunglasses with the diamante bits is too distracting and then you see the brick work and the viewer has forgotten all about the couple in the shot. If you just mask the top part of the frame (till her glasses are cropped out) you see a much better balanced image. 5

Quality of image
For example is it free from camera shake, noise and straight e.g. a seascape horizon that isn't flat or building that rises at an unintentional angle.

ItÂ’s quite good but a little soft around his chin because he is so far out of the frame. You would have been better shooting at a slightly higher aperture to keep all aspects of the face in focus. Not a huge fan of the pinky hue to the image though but I appreciate itÂ’s all personal taste. The lack of pinky hue shots of people around suggests itÂ’s not really the colour of choice for most people though. 6

Total: 20 /40

0-10 - ErmÂ…not sure how to break this to you!
10-20 - Could do with a bit of work to make it less of a snap and more of a piece of work to be proud of.
20-30 - Getting there and certainly above average
30-35 - Like it, like it a lot
35-40 - Wow and I'm probably being harsh with the criticism

Thanks for getting involved Petra and I hope you find it constructive.
  • Ellie
  • 31 Mar 2007, 21:19
Oh flip, in spite of all my good intentions I've run out of time for this. I went out for dawn the other morning, was still waiting for a glimmer of light through the gloom at 09:00 sad But, if it's OK to submit a picture that's already been uploaded and commented on, could I use this one please? It was taken in January, a sunrise ... First Light ...
http://www.ellie.shutterchance.com/photoblog/51319.htm
BeakerSt: Ellie - "Sunrise" posted 15 Jan and submitted against a theme entry of 'First' at beakerst.co.uk (IÂ’ll let this one slide but they should really be new submissionsÂ…cheeky scamp)

Relevance and Creativity
The competition will define the criteria for entries so how close to the definition is the shot. For example a theme of 'dog' would really need to have a dog as the focal point or main feature.

This type of shot could equally be sunrise or sunset to me, I can never tell. I think to capture the essence of first light there is usually less emphasis on the heat and colour and more use of things like dew or early morning fog or mist. This therefore slightly misses it for me although I do appreciate it is what you say it is. I can only give this a 4 as I think it lacks creativity even if itÂ’s accurate.

Overall impact
You can take a perfectly framed picture, appropriately composed and executed but it can still be dullÂ…does it have any wow factor?

ItÂ’s hard to add interest to an image that probably everyone has a couple of versions in their archive. I certainly have a few taken from different parts of the world and I rarely post them. It needs something to compliment the sun. This is often found in the sky either by including interesting cloud formations or flocks of birds. Or alternatively on the ground by either using silhouette or patterns on the floor created by the light or even structures such a jetty or fenceÂ…you know the sorts of shots IÂ’m talking about. Sadly whilst it may have been a lovely scene to witness first hand itÂ’s not really a shot that IÂ’m about to post on my wall to look at every day. Try having a look around your area for subjects to use in the image to add interest, thereÂ’s probably lots you are overlooking. 3

Composition
Is it appropriately composed, not necessarily rule of thirds or symmetrically presented but are the focal parts in the right place? Is it natural on the eye?

As IÂ’ve stated above, thereÂ’s not a lot in this to discuss. WhatÂ’s there is ok, my point is that there should be more there. The post in the foreground are a bit strange and make me wonder what they are. YouÂ’ve not made a feature of them yet they are in shot so kind of distract. Sorry but apart from the sun being in the middle thereÂ’s not a lot to say, 3

Quality of image
For example is it free from camera shake, noise and straight e.g. a seascape horizon that isn't flat or building that rises at an unintentional angle.

ThereÂ’s nothing wrong with what is presented. 7

Total: 17 /40

0-10 - ErmÂ…not sure how to break this to you!
10-20 - Could do with a bit of work to make it less of a snap and more of a piece of work to be proud of.
20-30 - Getting there and certainly above average
30-35 - Like it, like it a lot
35-40 - Wow and I'm probably being harsh with the criticism
Here is my first - my littlest is old enough to enjoy the zoo. Herer she sees her first big cat.
http://www.schaffnerphoto.shutterchance.com/photoblog/69462.htm

Love the ligh ton the stones,BTW! Great angle.
BeakerSt: Mikki / schaffnerphoto - "She sees her first cougar" posted 1 April and submitted against a theme entry of 'First' at beakerst.co.uk

Relevance and Creativity
The competition will define the criteria for entries so how close to the definition is the shot. For example a theme of 'dog' would really need to have a dog as the focal point or main feature.

OK, IÂ’ve said this for a couple of entries, without the title it wouldn't be clear that the shot was submitted against a theme of 'First' and the image shouldnÂ’t rely on the title or additional text to get the message across. I would have had to guess that this was a first child or something but I shouldnÂ’t have to guess and in this case would have been so very very wrongÂ…clearly I would never have been able to guess. I may not have been clear in the brief and for that I apologise. I was really looking for things like the first digit on a telephone or even a close up of a first class ticket for transport. Sorry but I canÂ’t see anything related to first so can only give you 1 for you being creative and me being unclear.

Overall impact
You can take a perfectly framed picture, appropriately composed and executed but it can still be dullÂ…does it have any wow factor?

Whilst it may not be relevant I do think it has some impact. It has attracted my attention and I can see that she is captivated by something, that indeed does come across. There is a sense of wonderment but also hesitation and if itÂ’s made me study and think about the shot then itÂ’s clearly got something. 7

Composition
Is it appropriately composed, not necessarily rule of thirds or symmetrically presented but are the focal parts in the right place? Is it natural on the eye?

I find this a little tricky to judge as itÂ’s nicely cropped and have captured a sense of drama by getting in close. Any further away and the sense of amazement she is feeling would have been lost. Having said that her ear is quite prominent and is competing for my attention against her eyes. Not sure if you focus locked on her face before composing the image. I think that has the image is about her being entranced by something she is looking at it needs to be from further behind her and using something like her posture and hand to get the message across or from further round to the right to show just a little more of her eyes and their fixed gaze. It is just my opinion but it is what you were after. At the very least a little reduction in brightness around the ear would have reduced itÂ’s draw and would take the attention more over to the window. Lastly the dark band on the far left does not add anything so I would have either clipped it out or cloned on top of it, just a minor distraction to me and IÂ’m being a bit picky. 7

Quality of image
For example is it free from camera shake, noise and straight e.g. a seascape horizon that isn't flat or building that rises at an unintentional angle.

I like the processing, perhaps a little soft around the eyes and hand where itÂ’s needed to keep the viewerÂ’s attention in the right place. 7

Total: 23 /40 Â…but keep in mind that itÂ’s scored lower mostly due to the relevance/creativity in relation to this theme submissionÂ…itÂ’s a decent shot in itself.

0-10 - ErmÂ…not sure how to break this to you!
10-20 - Could do with a bit of work to make it less of a snap and more of a piece of work to be proud of.
20-30 - Getting there and certainly above average
30-35 - Like it, like it a lot
35-40 - Wow and I'm probably being harsh with the criticism

Thanks for getting involved Mikki and I hope it was useful?
Nice,I like it
  • mal
  • 6 Apr 2007, 11:41
I was Robbed! I demand a re-count! lol grin MAL

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